dandandan (![[info]](http://p-stat.livejournal.com/img/userinfo.gif){kind=small} heterodoxus) wrote,@ 2007-10-23 16:21:00 |
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| Entry tags: | ben stein, creationism, evolution, huckabee, science! |
i'm pretty sure he thinks this is noble
but to me? honest ta jessus, really really comes across as patently unintelligent:
"Oh, I believe in science. I certainly do," he said. "In fact, what I believe in is, I believe in God. I don't think there's a conflict between the two. But if there's going to be a conflict, science changes with every generation and with new discoveries and God doesn't. So I'll stick with God if the two are in conflict."or, as pz myers put it quite succinctly,
So when he's faced with two claims, he'll follow the one that ignores all the evidence and sticks to its guns in the face of all reason?yeah, that, uh, sounds pretty fucking retarded to me.
i mean, how can you actually say "i believe in science"... and then in the next breath describe how you... don't believe in science. because that's precisely what that says. science isn't some nebulous concept that sits over there in the corner and we gesture at it and say "yeah, he's coo'". no, sorry. science is the guy you actually hang out with instead of the guy you want to hang out with. science is a thought process that you don't "dabble" in when it's convenient for you. science is a precise concept.
and science is, precisely, looking at two ideas in conflict, and going with the one which is based on the latest, most up-to-date, intelligently and profoundly collected information, instead of some tired ol' based-on-nothing fairytale that was set on autopilot thousands of years ago and never allowed to change course.
sucks, too. cuz every time i hear huckabee talk, i like him. he's funny. he's conversationally clever. he has a great story about pardoning keith richards.
but, holy hell is he a dipshit.
as is, i'd like to reiterate, ben stein. but stein has the added bonus of pompous self-important ignorance to it... because, yeah, i need a nixon speech writer that never spent a day in a lab telling me what should and should not be taken seriously in science professions... shut up you stupid, stupid man. or... are you next gonna drop in on some brain surgeries and tell the guy what he's doing wrong? perhaps let nasa know what they can do to improve the spacecraft designs? mebbe, oh i dunno, stop by my lab and tell me how to improve the durability of an RF/processor SiP? because i'd really love to hear your thoughts on the subject. you're not fooling me with the mock-humility of the whole "ohhh we just want freedom of speech!"
wull. listen, mister wholly unqualified: should we start talking about the flat earth too? cuz that's a theory. held by a lotta people. and they get REAL defensive about it. must be cuz they're scared that we all know the TRUTH! huh? yeah.
you can go hang out in the dark ages if ya want, bud. but stop trying to drag the rest of us down there with you. people don't take you seriously because it's a waste. of fucking. time. to reinvent the wheel every. gotdam. time. that some n00b thinks he has a "fresh" new idea that no one has explored yet... even though it's been explored to death and subsequently disproven hundreds of years ago.
or, more to the point of "intelligent design"... it's not even. fucking. science. can you test it? can we set up some experiments to prove or disprove a god exists?
here's a clue: if 'intelligent design' was science? there'd be no debate about religion.
