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Analysis: Clinton crushes Obama across the board - CNN.com:
Clinton, as expected, trounced Democratic front-runner Sen. Barack Obama in the West Virginia primary. In the process, she underscored Obama's weakness with blue-collar, working-class white voters -- a segment of the electorate that may prove pivotal in November.
ehhh. does anyone not in the talking-head industry think it's odd that obama doesn't perform well with the population category containing the most racists??

derp?

how is this a big deal.

also, clinton is the new nader. well done, hillary.

also also, russert can shut the fuck up, with his pseudopopulist bullshit.
The core -- if not the entirety -- of this persona can be summed up in the word Russert invokes at every opportunity, wielded like a talisman of authenticity: Buffalo. Buffalo, where the salt of the Earth trudge home from their exhausting blue-collar jobs, where the cheap beer is guzzled in corner bars, where the grime sits heavy on the walls of crumbling buildings, and the mills have all left town. Buffalo, where the young Russert got to know the real Americans on whose behalf he now speaks.
buffalo, where racism is more rampant and more tangible than anywhere i've ever lived, including texas. because it's so fucking monolithic. and i know the 'hood which he grew up because i did too, and i can tell you for certain that he learned it all too well. that's not to say he hasn't since shed all of that disgustingness. as i like to think i have. but it's impossible to escape. because there's no reason nor mechanism to get used to "the other".

buffalo. where no one should have to live.
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From:(Anonymous)
Date:May 15th, 2008 05:32 pm (UTC)

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Clinton also destroyed Obama in Virginia counties that border WVA. Same rednecks, one might say, except that these same counties went overwhelmingly for Doug Wilder.

Obama's problem in these areas is less his skin color than his snide attitude toward and thinly veiled contempt for these kinds of people as expressed in his Frisco remarks. They don't like snobs, and Obama is certainly a snob. They voted for W.J. Clinton overwhelmingly, but ran like hell from Kerry, another condescending toff in the Obama mold.

How Hillary can be equated with Nader in your book is also beyond me, this being a primary not a general election.

I, too, despise John McCain, but I do so for the correct reasons: The campaign finance reform attack on the 1st Amendment, and the attempt to destroy the American working class so that he, Obama, and their plutocratic friends can have their pools cleaned for $2 an hour.
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Date:May 16th, 2008 12:11 am (UTC)

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Welp, people who won't vote for someone because they perceive articulation, awareness and intelligence as snobbery are fuckin' dumb. It's like that elite horseshit. You don't want an "elite" president? Naw, I'd rather have the half-assed idiot because, well, beer taste good and I'd like to have one with him. . . *blows head off*

You're not picking someone you would be friends with or some that can intimately and familiarly relate to you. You're picking the Goddamned leader of seriously fucked country. BTW, it's not condescension when too much of the country really is that fucking dumb.
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From:heterodoxus
Date:May 16th, 2008 01:00 am (UTC)

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wait... so you're saying you take issue with someone who comes in and starts making "elitist" and "snobby" comments about how they don't like a politicians "snobbiness" and then add in a nice little "oh by the way MY opinions are way more valid than YOURS because i don't like mccain for the RIGHT reasons you person-who-is-beneath-me!"

huh.

whaddaya know.
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Date:May 16th, 2008 02:21 pm (UTC)

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There's the piss poor reading comprehension that keeps me coming back! I did not reveal my attitude towards elitists and snobs, only those of the inbred holler crawlers that comprise the WV Democratic electorate.

I'm in favor of snobbery in general, and I find Obama refreshingly articulate, though completely full of shit like any other politician. "Change" and "Hope" are not policies. Hell, they aren't even tangibles.

I won't vote for Obama because he's a big government kind of guy and a foreign policy naif. Full stop.
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Date:May 16th, 2008 02:12 pm (UTC)

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"Welp, people who won't vote for someone because they perceive articulation, awareness and intelligence as snobbery are fuckin' dumb."

And they are Democrats. Go figure.

"It's like that elite horseshit. You don't want an "elite" president? Naw, I'd rather have the half-assed idiot because, well, beer taste good and I'd like to have one with him. . . *blows head off*"

There is a difference between being a member of an elite and being an elitist. It isn't that subtle a distinction, really.

I trust you aimed upward through the roof of the mouth. Even with your higher calibers, an ear shot can glance off the skull or even pass through the canal. And, for Pete's sake, I hope you put plastic up and deployed a drop cloth, particularly if you were renting.

"You're not picking someone you would be friends with or some that can intimately and familiarly relate to you. You're picking the Goddamned leader of seriously fucked country."

Rwanda is a seriously fucked country. Zimbabwe is a seriously fucked country. Cuba, Venezuela, Burma, Bangladesh, Haiti... You wouldn't know "seriously fucked" if it gave you a reach around. I'm a libertarian, and even I have trouble characterizing the US as anything worse than "spoiled rotten," "indolent," and "occasionally misguided."

"BTW, it's not condescension when too much of the country really is that fucking dumb."

There are dumb people everywhere. Half the people in the world have intelligence below the median. True fact! I shit you not. This is why "No Child Left Behind" is an abject failure: Many, many American children are simply too stupid to succeed academically, ever. Shocking, I know. But there you have it.
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Date:June 3rd, 2008 05:04 am (UTC)

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"There is a difference between being a member of an elite and being an elitist. It isn't that subtle a distinction, really."

You're right. "Elite" is what we call people who are the best. "Elitist" is a term reserved for people who resent those better than them. One can be a noun or a verb, the other is an invective aimed at people that make you feel like you're less than you may be. "Subtle distinction" and all that.

"You're not picking someone you would be friends with or some that can intimately and familiarly relate to you. You're picking the Goddamned leader of seriously fucked country."

"Rwanda is a seriously fucked country. Zimbabwe is a seriously fucked country. Cuba, Venezuela, Burma, Bangladesh, Haiti... You wouldn't know "seriously fucked" if it gave you a reach around. I'm a libertarian, and even I have trouble characterizing the US as anything worse than "spoiled rotten," "indolent," and "occasionally misguided."

Context is key. You're not a libertarian. If you were, you would appreciate that sentiment.
From:ext_79901
Date:May 16th, 2008 12:15 am (UTC)
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Also, I have the distinction of living on the same street that wretched waste of carbon Russert was born on, Woodside Avenue. Hell, my dad was Big Russ's paper boy when Mrs. Russ' kicked that thing out of her womb. God I hate South Buffalo. . .
From:(Anonymous)
Date:May 22nd, 2008 04:51 pm (UTC)

Russert (Possibly) Farts on the Air

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http://www.bestweekever.tv/2008/05/21/exclusive-tim-russert-farts-on-television/

Wednesday
EXCLUSIVE: Tim Russert Farts On Television
Sorry to be such 5 year-olds here, but yesterday during Race for the White House With David Gregory on MSNBC, Tim Russert farted, rather loudly, on the air. We re-winded the moment about 25 times to make sure we weren’t hallucinating, and sure enough, the fart - which occurs about 14 seconds into the clip - was both real and magnificent. See for yourselves, and spend the rest of the afternoon making “windbag” jokes in the comments. (Even though Russert’s fart was so awesome it sounds like a special effect of some sort, this audio in this clip was in no way edited or altered from what aired on TV. We can’t stress this enough.)

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From:heterodoxus
Date:May 22nd, 2008 10:19 pm (UTC)

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oh jeeeeeez.
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Date:May 25th, 2008 03:22 am (UTC)

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Pfft. I seen old guys cry tears of pride over paint-peeling gastrointestinal "disturbances" at the Irish Center. Just one more reminder that that power-fellating, pumpkin headed fuck is "one of us" (sorta.)

*loads shot-gun*
From:ext_79901
Date:May 25th, 2008 03:24 am (UTC)

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BTW, the above comment was me. I forgot to sign in.
(Speak up.)
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